Jul272010

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Who do you want in YOUR Colony?

I haven’t had a chance to watch “The Colony”, but a new season of this TV series begins tonight on the Discovery Channel.  From their press release:

What would you do in the wake of a global catastrophe?  Even if you survived it, could you survive the aftermath?  Discovery Channel puts these questions to the test in THE COLONY.

THE COLONY is not a competition, but a controlled experiment that places ordinary people from all walks of life in a simulated post-catastrophic environment and pushes them to their limits, in an ultimate test of personal will and survival skills.

The volunteers who will work together to survive are a model who grew up on a horse farm and a survivalist who keeps Bug Out Bags on hand and whose wife drops him out in the middle of the desert, alone, for days at a time.  A woman auto mechanic is part of the group along with a former Marine/general contractor and a geology professor.  A pretty darn cute construction worker and an “industrial artist” who fences and is SCUBA certified round out the group of three women and four men.

You can watch past seasons of “The Colony” on Netflix and online.

What I’m wondering is this.  If you were in a desolate location following a devastating disaster, who would you want in your Colony?

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  1. A real leader, those with varied skills and most of all those with character and not conflicted with everyone all the time.

    Tactical
    Domestic
    support / scroungers

    • Life in a colony, like the TV show, would be difficult if it were made up of people who were each intent on having their own way. The only way to survive is for everyone to cooperate. I'm reading the history of the American colonies, and in some cases, the only way they survived was with an autocratic leader who had nearly absolute power. Harsh but some people are incapable of ruling themselves with any positive results.

  2. I saw the ads for The Colony and I'm sooooooooooooo excited. Got my DVR all set to record it. I've actually thought about people I would want in my 'colony'. The hard part would be not letting everyone in that I know… because not everyone would contribute, some of them would sink the boat or cause conflict.

    • I hope the first episode lived up to your expectations!

  3. FYI, the show is on Hulu. Right now they have episodes 5-10 of the first season, so if you've got broadband, no need to watch at the neighbors' :)

    • When I have some time, I might watch some of Season 1. I think I saw part of an episode last year and remember they were trying to put together some sort of technology to acquire energy.

  4. Young guys and girls that grew up on a farm. They're young so they would be strong and they came off a farm so they'll know how to work and should be able to come up with a fix for anything. Someone with military medical training. Someone with top notch managerial skills to help organize and coordinate. Someone that understands plants such as a plant biologist or horticulturist. Farm guys will have good knowledge of growing things, too. Religious leader and spiritual guide that would also have the ability to act as a counselor. And as much as I hate to say it, a lawyer. Someone needs to know how to establish the laws to keep order.

    • That's a good point. When I read One Second After, I was struck by the importance of the college age men and women. They were the backbone of the town's defenses and had the strength and energy to forage for food. Of course, they were also given extra rations because of their importance in keeping the town safe and rebuilding it.

      • One second after is the reason i am reading your blog. Its something i never knew about! Prepping i mean, i never knew it was…done. that book scared me into action, and i am so glad to have your wisdom at my fingertips. Thank you.

  5. I saw the last season, and didn't think much of it, being too scripted and set up. But it was worth while in giving the clueless a place to start thinking. I'm assuming this one will be the same.
    Who would I want in my survival colony? A farmer. Someone with years of how-to under his belt that actually worked, not just theory.

    • Most modern 'farming' is horribly dependent upon oil and it's derivatives. Any major/global disruption of the oil flow, and the modern farmer is just as clueless as everyone else in the Gilded Horde.

      Non Serviam – I will not serve.

      • Galen, it's a bit scary to think about the truth in your comment. Take away all the modern technology, and you have to wonder how many of our farmers would be able to grow something using more primitive skills. I think the most successful ones would be the ones with small family farms who can't afford the more advanced farm equipment. In the future, less will be more.

    • I hadn't thought about a farmer, but would agree. Or just someone like my friend Glenn who can grow anything, anywhere. Every year his garden is absolutely amazing.

    • OK, I'll amend that. A Quaker Farmer. LOL AND his horses. (and perhaps his wife who can preserve and can on a wood stove, and his sons who can mend and tend a windmill, and his daughters who can sew and knit…)
      Ok, I'm moving to Lancaster Pennsylvania.

  6. The group I already have. There are many good things about being a part of an 18th century Living History group, you get to know everyone, you are all trained; you can form a militia and do regular training and recruitment.

    We are all skilled, some better at some skills than others. We are family oriented so everyone including the kids are trained and ready, no traumas with the kids!

    We are all fully equiped for long term wilderness survival, and practice thes skills on a regular basis within Historical Trekking.

    In my opinion, it is groups like ours that stand the best chance of surviving where survival is possible.

    Regards.

    • Is it possible to find out more about this group? I looked at the website you suggested before but there doesn't seem to be a group in Hawaii. How does one get this sort of group going?

      • Since this is a staged TV show filmed in Louisiana, I believe, you would have to set up something like this on your own. Have you connected with your state's prepper website via http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.com? That might be a way to get in touch with other survival minded people in Hawaii, http://www.hawaiipreppersnetwork.com/

        • Yes, I have connected with Hawaii's Prepper Network. I think you are right. Something like this group will have to be organized on our own.
          Thanks!

  7. Young guys and girls that grew up on a farm. They're young so they would be strong and they came off a farm so they'll know how to work and should be able to come up with a fix for anything. Someone with military medical training. Someone with top notch managerial skills to help organize and coordinate. Someone that understands plants such as a plant biologist or horticulturist. Farm guys will have good knowledge of growing things, too. Religious leader and spiritual guide that would also have the ability to act as a counselor. And as much as I hate to say it, a lawyer. Someone needs to know how to establish the laws to keep order.

  8. Like the previous season of 'The Colony' this one again *DOES NOT* have 'average people'. They are carefully selected professionals who have skills above and beyond what you find in a census style cross section of the population, and have been selected to provide the most dramatic potential.

    On a completely different website I made the following analysis of the previous season's 'Colonists':

    "As posited by 'The Colony' series, you have ten average people, divided 60/40 by sex, in a simulated apocalyptic situation. Their purpose is to develop a working small scale society after a complete collapse of wider society and it's technology due to a disease with widespread mortality.

    The 'Colonists' are all well educated professionals, mostly of middle upper to upper class, mostly white. When examining their occupations, the majority (80%) of the occupations are the product of a high technology background. Using the US population data as of 2008 (307,212,123 people), and Bureau of Labor statistics, I calculated the percentage of people in each occupation given the US population: Nurse (.78%), Marine Scientist (.029%), Doctor (.21%), Independent Contractor (1.61%), Computer Engineer (.024%), Machinist (.137%), Martial Arts Instructor (.003%), Solar Technology Technician (.046%), Aerospace Engineer (.023%), and Mechanical Engineer (.077%). Given a population of 4,065,585 in Los Angeles, and the above theoretical mortality, the chances of assembling such a group of talented and educated people in an actual disaster or apocalypse are very small indeed.

    One major argument I have with the scenario is the 'fortunate' cache of usable supplies 'found' in the warehouse. A repairable truck, welding torch, all kinds of electrical debris and detritus, spare plumbing parts, and occasionally food. Again, possible, but very unlikely. I have been in disused and abandoned warehouses, and most of them are dark, dusty, and stripped of almost anything of value or use.

    Most of the 'Colonists' efforts are spent recreating artifacts of the past high tech lifestyle, with producer driven emphasis on flashy 'self-defense' weapons like a flame thrower or high voltage cattle prod. I feel this is unrealistic. Little or no effort is made to institute long term food production or storage. The 'Colonists'/survivors knew that their separation from society was short term, and that they would be returning to their previous lives of relative ease and leisure.

    In addition the living/sleeping area is ridiculously large and wasteful of resources (but looks great for television), the cooking and food prep wasteful, and the issue of hygiene and sanitation are glossed over with a hot water shower.

    Should I even go into how many times the 'marauders' conveniently turned up? Think about it for a moment. Supposedly, Los Angeles is almost depopulated by disease, but like clockwork, either other survivors or marauders turn up every week. And the 'survivors' and 'marauders' were always well equipped, supplied and well fed.

    If you have ever read the book 'World Without Us' or seen the documentary series 'World Without Humans' you would know that with a massive human die off, many complex systems that require constant human supervision and maintenance would rapidly break down, leading to explosions, fires, toxic gas releases and other major hazards. Along with disease and the thousands of human corpses decaying in houses or right out in the street, staying put in one location in a major urban center would be very chancy, if not impossible.

    Don't get me wrong. The Colony is a wonderful effort to raise awareness of disaster preparedness. But it is more 'Bear Grilis' than 'Les Stroud'. Great TV, but thin on actual usable knowledge."

    I would caution that this is a TV show made for the express purpose of entertainment, and the participants and situation have been carefully crafted to make the viewer think (a little), but generate maximum profits for the Corporation.

    Non Serviam – I will not serve.

    • Getting ANY hint of reality through to ANYONE at ANY of the Hollywood Studios is nearly impossible. If it doesn't have to do with LiLo, J Lo, or something LA-centric, they don't even notice it. And the ones who aren't liberal don't generally admit it publicly because it would be bad for their career. So, I'm impressed that something like this even made it to air. Expecting any significant amount of reality to enter into it would be asking quite a lot from The Entertainment Industry – too much, really.

      I didn't see the first season but I did watch the first episode of the second one. I can totally see what you're talking about, but maybe this will spawn another show that is more realistic. It can also make people think more about what they themselves might do in a similar situation. We can only hope!

  9. The new "actors" are lame. Food, water, and means to make fire were given to them right off the bat! But not one person thought to set up defenses! Or find a better building to live in!!! Not realistic at all.

    • Post Katrina, I watched an interview with some woman who was a mega-high paid "consultant" on emergency planning. She consulted for corporations and universities and such. In this interview she was saying they needed to go back to the drawing board, as they hadn't envisioned and planned for any kind of crime or civil unrest!!!

      while my heart was warmed to see the instances of heroism, and community and individual rescues and assistance, what will stand out in history is the sniper shooting at medics trying to evacuate the pediatric ward at the hospital, and the police loading down their cruisers with so much loot that they dragged on the ground.

      • Very few of us have had to face the degree of lawlessness and violence that would certainly be a part of life after a massive disaster. I thought it was terrible when someone had the nerve to hack into my old Facebook account! We just aren't prepared for a life lived in fear. I think about the poor people living in north Israel where 3000 missiles have been fired into their country just in the past six months. When the alarms go off, they have SECONDS to reach a bomb shelter. Can you even imagine living like that? We Americans have no idea what life could be like.

        • Most of the 'missiles' that have been fired at Israel are based on the old 'Katusha' unguided rocket design. While they have killed a relative handful of people, Israeli retaliation has always been with the very latest US supplied military hardware, and has killed thousands of Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, etc.

          There have also been several *documented* cases of Israeli special forces sneaking over the border of the 'bad guy du jour' to fire rockets back into Israel as a pretext for a subsequent Israeli 'retaliation'.

          Please consider that while the Israelis' have bomb and blast shelters to retreat to, their neighbors do not.

          For a contrasting point of view, think about what life in the Occupied Territories, Gaza, or the refugee camps must be like. Apply your own drive to survive and protect your family. Now add forty years of occupation , discrimination, poverty, starvation, and indiscriminate retaliation.

          Non Serviam – I will not serve.

          • Thousands of rockets, regardless of age or style, purposely fired into neighborhoods and towns is nevertheless terrifying, which is their purpose. The Palestinians, for whatever reason, have allowed Hamas to all but take over their entire territory and use it as a terrorist base. If Mexico fired even one missile into Texas or Arizona, no one would take comfort if it were, "based on the old Katusha unguided rocket design." Since when does the design of a rocket or other weapon matter when used against civilians? A prehistoric club is still an offensive weapon.

            If someone walked down my street randomly firing a gun at houses, I wouldn't care how old the gun was or whether or not it was high-tech. And, I would have every right to defend myself, even if it meant pulling out a weapon far superior. I will defend myself and my family first and foremost. Israel makes the distinction of taking time to locate those actually firing the missiles. Hamas has no qualms about firing theirs into schools, shops, residential neighborhoods.

            Palestinians have received billions and billions of dollars in aid. Why haven't their leaders used a fraction of it to build bomb shelters? Could it be that photos of a few dead Palestinians are worth more to them as propaganda than protecting their citizens? And let's not forget the massive amount of money that was squirreled away by their so-called leader, Arafat. The truth is, most of the aid, and we're talking multiple packages of hundreds of millions of dollars each, never reaches the very people it is intended to help. Perhaps a good research project for you would be to track down where this money actually goes. All that aid, divided between Palestinians would result in thousands of millionaires by now.

            As far as those 'documentaries' go, sorry, but I've seen dozens of doctored photographs from so-called journalists in Lebanon and Gaza and know better than to blindly trust their work. I would expect the same from anything on film. And here's something to think about. If hundreds of rockets are fired by actual Hamas terrorists what could possibly be the point of Israelis sneaking over the border to fire even more?? Again, trusting in a 'documentary' (so glad you placed quotation marks around that word) that purports to show Israelis attacking themselves to place blame on Hamas who regularly attacks Israel when the evidence for the Hamas attacks is plentiful… the logic escapes me.

            Ask yourself why the Palestinians have never been allowed into the countries of their "brothers" when, as you say they have been starved and treated horribly. Such a humanitarian move would be applauded. It's not like Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, for example, don't have room to spare.

            I have lived in Israel and befriended both Israelis and Palestinians. The Israelis I spent time with had close friends among Palestinians as well as the Bedouins in the area. I visited Palestinian families in their homes and attended a Bedouin wedding. It's very possible for these groups of people to live in peace with each other. There's a lot more to be said, but my original point stands. Living day to day, never knowing when the alarm will sound for another attack, is a terrifying way to live.

  10. I made two lists – one of skills, one of previous living environment they've experienced. Overlap the two, and you've got a much better shot, IMHO. :-)
    SKILLS:
    – a farmer
    – a machinist
    – an old retired military guy (the old ones learned lots of handy tricks during their time that young 'uns don't know)
    – medic, LPN, doctor, or other person with medical skills
    – construction worker
    – wilderness survival trainer (knowledge for foraging and also medicinal herbs)

    LIVING ENVIRONMENT:
    – someone who has lived in a crap urban environment like a ghetto
    – someone who has lived in an isolated rural environment (which may or may not be the farmer)
    – someone who is part of a genuinely persecuted minority (most likely to be an immigrant or refugee)
    – someone who has lived in a third world environment (again, most likely to be an immigrant or refugee, but could be someone who worked in the Peace Corps or something similar)

    The last two would be much more aware of security concerns. The final one would also be better at figuring out ways to "make do".

    • I was thinking about someone who had spent time in the military. If you look at the buildings in the area where the colony is filmed, I wondered if some where more defensible than others. Studying military strategy would be of high value, I would think, for defensive purposes.

      • The first things that I thought were to get wood and nail it up over ground floor windows, inside first and then outside so they have two layers to get through. Then put something up in front of the door to keep, say, smoke bombs from being tossed inside easily and also to prevent them from just rushing the door. Something heavy inside the door to push up against it in addition to that, and they'd still have all their meds. If they had hidden some of that water under a tarp and something like an old door, they'd still have it. And I've just read too many SHTF books! I can't imagine what an actual military type would come up with, but they'd still have ALL their stuff.

        • When you are fortifying a location you are not only keeping others out, but keeping yourself in. If there was an emergency like a fire, those barricaded doors and windows just signed your death certificate.

          I have noticed that too many people place the emphasis on Hollywood style 'good' survivors vs. 'evil' marauders, imagining that they are engaged in a desperate life and death battle over the last can of Spam. On many prep and survival websites, much is made of this gun over that, and how to spend your entire life like you are under siege.

          I often see voluminous postings on 'tactical' thinking or small unit last stand fights, but little on communicating, community building or how to effectively barter or trade.

          I was once soundly (and to my mind pointlessly) flamed on a message site for suggesting predator/prey thinking, ie; thinking like a rabbit when wolves are in the area. Boarding up your house or obvious defenses scream 'We have useful supplies. Come and get 'em!'. Sooner or later, no matter how well stocked you think you are for ammo, you will run out. And if your attackers know anything of history, a sit down siege will force you out damn quick.

          Too many people think that roving gangs will be the greatest threat during a major collapse. While it is true that *some* gangs have shown evidence of long term planning, and many can be well armed *in the short term* ie: enough ammo for a few weeks, but not months or years, it's worth remembering that these people will see the Collapse as an opportunity to seize short term goals in regards to wealth (which will suddenly be worthless), or physical pleasures (stealing alcohol, drugs, etc) or settling issues of petty inter-gang vengeance (which will act to cull their numbers).

          As a final note I offer the following: During the devastation of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, the greatest threat to personal safety after the storm, contaminated floodwaters, and other disaster related hazards came not from criminal gangs, but from emotionally immature gun owners with a score to settle, *police*, National Guardsmen, and Blackwater mercenaries acting on behalf of the Federal and State Government. While there was *some* criminal looting of stores for luxury items, most 'looting' was carried out by common people seeking the food and water needed to keep them alive after they had been abandoned by the very people who were supposed to serve and protect them.

          The actions of New Orleans Police in the murders of at least four people on a bridge, who were attempting simply to escape the flooded and hazardous Lower Ninth Ward for higher ground proves my point.

          Non Serviam – I will not serve.

          • Those are all excellent points, Galen. Above all, I think survival depends on the ability to be flexible and willing to accept and deal with changing realities.

          • True, but we are still talking about a tv show here. And in this particular case, most of the windows are already boarded up in other buildings, so it isn't the big red flag it could be IMHO. I wouldn't truly block all but one escape either, but that also doesn't mean they need to leave all those windows uncovered.

            I noticed that they actually confirmed that they food ("how much do you want? we aren't giving it all to you") and where their valuables were in the very first conversations they had with "outsiders". They apparently haven't discussed what they want to tell "outsiders" or how much info to give out because they tend to each say something a little (or a lot) different. One more thing to think about if it all falls apart. :-)

          • Liz, I saw most of the first episode, and that construction worker doesn't seem to have a brain in his head! One of the dilemmas in the scenario with the outsiders is that you take a gamble either way, whether or not you help them. They could be scouts for a larger group, looking for potential targets, or legitimate refugees who might become allies down the road. It was kind of funny when they were all relaxing around the fire. They had shelter, water, food, fire, and…..what was that last thing again?? Oh yeah! Security! LOL Oops! Hopefully, they'll come up with a game plan to deal with security issues in the next episode.

          • The "artist / inventor" was about as useful at teats on a boar, but he's getting more useful on the third episode. At least he doesn't spend most of it napping! Security it improving, but they still seem pretty dense about it. What food and supplies they have is just sitting on the pretty shelves, obvious to anyone who breaks in. No attempt to conceal at least part of it.

          • >> I often see voluminous postings on 'tactical' thinking or small unit last stand fights, but little on communicating, community building or how to effectively barter or trade.

            I agree in general, but I imagine in a stress scenario, the factionalism most are so at ease resorting to in the comfort of their air conditioned home, would only become more acute. Is it the best way to maximize resources? No. But most likely scenario? Yes.

            One could also pretty easily argue that as long as there were no perceived ability to be net creators of goods, but net consumers, factionalism would likely be the prudent course of action.

          • I also find it fascinating that they have really just hunkered down in their one little part of the compound and not gone scavenging elsewhere, with the exception of the pig truck. Hellooooo! Maybe there's more out there? And they never have more than three people go to scavenge, and they are, in short, in a position that they CAN NOT bring back anything large or heavy, no matter how valuable – like the battery they lost out on during the first episode.

  11. I think what needs to be kept in mind, is that this is entertainment. While entertainment, and having the resource of consultants to call upon if the situation gets really bad, I think the goal is really showing how human innovation can take over. Soon, there will be fewer resources, and they will have to hunt, scavenge, etc. Has some of this been set up. For sure. But I think the lessons (for preppers and survivalists) would be to learn where your own holes in your OPSEC might be. Don't judge it too hard. American TV has it's limits, and once you know that, take a step back and take it for what it is.

    I am certainly not a spokesperson for the Colony, but I know a helluva lot of people who could not have innovated doing what they had done already.

  12. Galen gives a pretty accurate description of the show. Not being into reality TV, I wasn't interested. But, I did catch one episode and hmmm, while it's a bit scripted, it is food for thought. Like how they make flour & water hotcakes when supplies are low. Yes, they're professionals in their fields, wouldn't be much of a show if it was an empty warehouse with a bunch of airheads sitting 'round dying for lack of brains. They start the show by saying something like, "A virus has wiped out most of mankind…" so maybe that warehouse was just abandoned.
    After that show, I watched "Duel Survivors" One man is a hippie type, the other is military. There's also, Apocalyptic Man, and quite a few others. Is someone trying to tell us something? That's my bottom line question.

  13. I agree that it is just entertainment. Unfortunately for my husband, that doesn't stop me from grumbling at the tv. :-p

    BTW, on just my street of no more than 40 houses in the Mid Atlantic, I know of one retired sniper (SEAL); another retired Navy guy; a family with a small aircraft nearby; a home school family; different people with chickens, horses and other critters (cows are on the farm behind our street, but not on it); multiple pieces of small farm equipment like real tractors (not the overgrown lawn mower type); a pre-electronics motorcycle with sidecar as well as ATVs; and, of course, hunters. We also have at least two people who grew up behind the Iron Curtain, so they undoubtedly could contribute. And I don't even know most of the neighbors! There are of course professionals in fields like IT, lawyers, teachers, etc, and enough guys who are into mechanics and firearms that it isn't worth bothering to count them.

    When we lived in LA, our block included a masseuse (real ones do have training in how the body works and keeping it healthy), a Grip (a very physical job), a scenic painter, a tv editor / home handy man, a life coach, an artist, a musician, a set designer (good eye for using things in novel ways), at least one lawyer, a contractor, and a wanna-be actor (strong young guy from TX, though). There were several pools full of water, at least one pre-electronic car, several car guys who worked on fixing their own cars, at least two or three home workshops with tools, and numerous fruit trees of different types. There were also some knowledgeable gardeners. The most useful combination of skills. Um, no. Not at all, but not totally useless either.

    Are there a lot of areas where you can go ten or twenty blocks in any direction and not find anyone with useful SHTF skills? Of course, and plenty of them, but there are also a lot of areas where you can go find ten people and at least a couple will have useful skills. When you get down to it, most of us don't know those around us or their skills very well.

    If an EMP hit the town where my dad grew up, odds are pretty good that other than suddenly seeing crops growing where there were none before, lots of security and open carry around, and a whole bunch of new residents, in many ways it probably wouldn't seem all that different in six months (except for things from the outside like tv and cell phones) because they have the skills, the tools, and the junk laying around to fix things. (As my husband noted, that's what happens when you have two or three generations who have read every issue ever printed of Popular Mechanics – and have a convenient friendly junk yard that even takes requests to look for stuff.) And since it's in an old coal area, they just need to literally scratch the surface of the ground to get fuel for power and heat.

    While they did have a stash of stuff at the beginning, the people didn't have ANYTHING they brought with them and they can't continue looking in other areas until they find something usable. Most of us carry things that would be useful, even if we aren't preppers, and would certainly grab a few things before we went to a government shelter. I find it unlikely that no one in a group of seven would have anything to make fire themselves, like a pack of matches from a bar or a cigarette lighter.

    Finally, and I know I've said this elsewhere, getting to know your neighbors is important and not just so you can help those who need it.

  14. Galen pretty much summed up the first season (and likely the second). That said, I was still excited to see last nights episode of Season 2.

    I am constantly bothered by the fact the each season the Colonists work at turning back on the electricity and gaining power, rather than adapting to a life without power. The systems they incorporate can't last forever, even the solar panels from season 1.

    I do find the shows to be informative on other items such as securtiy, cooking and the dynamics of a group relationship with strangers. I'm hoping that this season there is less welding and more true survival. The fact that the group tried to net fish last night suggests it might be.

  15. I agree with the general feeling here that while the show may be Hollywood in style, hopefully, it is raising awareness of the urgent need to prepare.
    We grew up outside an Amish community and admired how they didn't let "modern ways" interfere with
    their commitment to living the old ways. They are highly skilled farmers , most of whom still don;t use major farming equipment. They raise livestock, grow their own food, make their own clothes, know how to preserve, can, dry, smoke meats, etc. without the use of electricity. An amazingly hearty people. Unfortunately, they have holes in their survival existence too. There was a History Channel program on a few weeks ago about the vulnerability of DARKNESS and the dangers that lurk there. It was reported that the Amish communities are the most vulnerable of societies and are often robbed with terrible violence committed against them when their defenses are down at night. Hopefully, they are realizing that being so peaceful and non-violent sets them up for scrutiny of the ruthless thugs of the world. So I would say in my colony I would want people with Amish know-how who were confident with weapons, workabees who just need to be told what to do and the job will be done, some ex-military men for protection, a strong leader who had the ability to organize and maintain a status quo of cooperativeness and unfaltering commitment to ensure survival, and some Survival Instinct Moms with their innate sense of protectiveness and whom I think will be the real leaders in a SHTF situation.

    • "So I would say in my colony I would want people with Amish know-how who were confident with weapons, workabees who just need to be told what to do and the job will be done, some ex-military men for protection, a strong leader who had the ability to organize and maintain a status quo of cooperativeness and unfaltering commitment to ensure survival, and some Survival Instinct Moms with their innate sense of protectiveness and whom I think will be the real leaders in a SHTF situation."

      Not to be too critical, but it sounds like you want a host of people to do the heavy lifting for you, while you recline in splendor. May I suggest you rethink what you can offer to a 'Colony' before making a list of those you wish to serve you.

      Non Serviam – I will not serve.

      • Funny. I must have missed the "experienced grape peeler" on her list. The question was, "Who would you want in your colony?" I never asked my readers to provide their own resume.

  16. One person ~ TED NUGENT!!! (nuf said)

    • He can cook, shoot, and entertain! He just might be all you needed!

  17. Good nighty Mom, get cable! If there is a basic cable plan with TDC and you plan on watching enough to justify the cost, get it. There's FoxNews, business networks, The Weather Channel, and other material to balance out the smut on MTV and the lies on CNNMSNBCABCCBSHLN.

    • I finally got RID of cable! Have you ever tried to cancel Direct TV?? That was an experience in itself. I thought their rep was going to start crying after he offered me his first born if I would just change my mind! They called me for weeks afterward, sweetening their deal a little bit each time. I finally said, "I'm sick of my family watching too much TV, and if I could take a sledgehammer to our two TVs, I would do it!"

  18. I would want: a Vietnam-era ex-SFer, a farmer, a nurse (LPN preferred), a chaplain, old school mechanic (not a "hook it up to the OBD computer and read an error code" type), and someone with an engineering background.

    There is an excellent book that discusses the dynamics and practical exercise of team/tribe cooperative work called "Everybody's Outdoor Survival Guide" http://www.amazon.com/Everybodys-Outdoor-Survival

  19. Last night made me change my mind. I want Hank Lawson and Divya Cadhari (from Royal Pains) and Mike, Sam, Fiona, and Mike's Mom from Burn Notice. I think Jesse is too hot-headed, though.

  20. I would want several guys from one of the forums I frequent, but I won't post particulars about who they are.
    The kinds of people I would want would be:
    …experienced with sustainable gardening
    …calm and collected, rational under pressure
    …committed to being fit
    …proven to be adaptable
    …those with good interpersonal skills

    You'll notice that I focus more on character and outlook than on skills. Skills are important, but they become less so the more the individuals possessing them depart from good common decency and rational action. I find that those who are like the people I describe above usually come with a goodly amount of skills and experience, just as a matter of course. They also don't look at themselves are "special" in that regard, they just "know what they know", and are able to pull what they need from their craniums as they need it. If they don't have it, they can get it because of "WHO THEY ARE".

    You give me 6 good people of note, and I'll give you a surviving team.

  21. I would want my family as my colony! We have pretty well rounded skill set since my grandparents are around too. Honestly I think we could manage if we had to. Plus while none of us are nurses or anything (would be nice) 4/7 of us have up to date CPR and a minimum of basic first aid. If younger brother continues to pursue scouts/backpacking, I may get my wilderness first aid (or whatever they choose to call it) when he gets his.The red cross has a separate first aid certification for being out in the middle of nowhere!

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